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Post by rebornemperore on Apr 12, 2011 21:28:29 GMT -5
Honestly one day is just an awful idea sorry to say. first you would have find a correct time that all can agree on and on a good day like saturday. Honestly there's just way too much confusion and hassle. i know you want to "try it out" but i suggest you do that in a singles tourney at the very least. trying that in a partners tourney would just be mass chaos. I also suggest that you don't split up teams if you do decide to spread it out. Another issue i would like to discuss is the use of a shikamaru balance support. It seems unfair in most cases and just adds to the complaints and comments. yes it is part of the game but it just seems to go along with the many other mistakes made in the game. Besides the past few tournies have had shika balance's alowed so why not try this one withought it and see what others think? i'm sure you'll get nothing but positive feedback from all the "real" players who aren't turtling/spamming "scrubs" that just enter to annoying people. I believe that this would be a good move for future tournies as it will draw more competition as well. Please get back to me on what you have to say on these matters ^_^ I love it when people spam shikamaru balance, because then when I take it away with an ultimate they can't use it anymore. Due to the fact that they 9 times out of 10 aren't good at the game, they then get whooped hardcore. Also Outlaw what are you talking about me and Cali doing our match?
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Post by xxsoulxx on Apr 12, 2011 21:51:59 GMT -5
well thats personally you reborn. I and many others think that it's just a display of no skill and is advantagly unfair (especially to new players entering their first tournament). that might not always be the case but i'm just giving an example. Also others may not be as skilled as some to be able to break through their excessive spam and hit them with an ultimate or even just dodge it. Thus giving an unfair advantage to those "scrubs" that everyone hates.
On the topic of when the tournament should be, i agree with shadow in not having it on a sunday (or at least a sunday morning) because some of us (myself included) have church. I do not intend to or am even allowed to miss church for a video game. Now thats just my case but i'm sure there are similar cases with others here. honestly i still think it should be widespread over 1 to 2 weeks maximum
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Post by rebornemperore on Apr 12, 2011 22:18:07 GMT -5
well thats personally you reborn. I and many others think that it's just a display of no skill and is advantagly unfair (especially to new players entering their first tournament). that might not always be the case but i'm just giving an example. Also others may not be as skilled as some to be able to break through their excessive spam and hit them with an ultimate or even just dodge it. Thus giving an unfair advantage to those "scrubs" that everyone hates. On the topic of when the tournament should be, i agree with shadow in not having it on a sunday (or at least a sunday morning) because some of us (myself included) have church. I do not intend to or am even allowed to miss church for a video game. Now thats just my case but i'm sure there are similar cases with others here. honestly i still think it should be widespread over 1 to 2 weeks maximum I feel that if new people can't beat chakra shuriken spam, then they won't make it far in the tournament anyway. Experience is what wins this game, and if you don't have it then you don't have any place to be winning in the first place (no offense to any new people, you just haven't earned it yet). The best player should be just that.... the best player. If you can't beat something so simply spammed, then you probably shouldn't advance. Now I have no problem with them banning it - I don't use it. Just like I don't use Pain's support or Ino balance. Still though, I simply don't care if it's in there. If you have no skill then you won't win it all. Remember DJChildLegacy who thought he was good because he spammed Chakra Shuriken with Shikamaru? He barely beat me in the semifinals because he caught me when I was in a crap mood with no sleep right after work (I might as well have just been hit by a freight train). Guess what happened to him? He got beat by a Guy user. A GUY user. Shikamaru as a main is WAY worse than having him as a balance support, and the guy STILL lost against GUY. Moral of the story is, if people spam cheap crap and you can't beat it, it's very likely that you won't get far anyway. If you CAN beat it, then you will go far. Just because new people that have no place making it that far in the tournament can't beat it means very little. No offense to you if you can't beat it, I just say practice more against it (especially if you have a character that can chakra dash-ultimate. Takes care of that problem REAL quick).
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Post by rebornemperore on Apr 12, 2011 22:20:17 GMT -5
I might also mention that as they spam that Shikamaru balance, their team bar goes up. They then get Team Ultimate. Avoid that team ultimate until it runs out and then poof.... there goes shikamaru's annoying tags.
Also to address your factor of people not being able to break through and ultimate or just dodge... that's absolutely terrible. If they can't chakra dash or jump to one side, then I have no idea what they're doing competing in a tournament.
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Post by Bobroham on Apr 12, 2011 22:25:08 GMT -5
Getting team bar is a good thing...
And kunai are only being judged relative to other kunai. Compared to any other kunai in the game, having Shikamaru's on balanced are so ridiculously overpowered when compared to any other kunai in the game on balanced, except maybe Gaara's.
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Post by xxsoulxx on Apr 12, 2011 22:27:29 GMT -5
I see what you mean. I'm just saying that it is annoying and a tad unfair weather you new or not. I myself can beat that annoying spam 9/10 times the 1 being when i'm in an awful mood or havn't played in a few days heh. what i mainly don't like that if you slip up even 1% then it's over because they'll know it and turtle even harder. I'm just trying to avoid that annoying-ness as well as them thinking they're great and moving up in the tourney. they don't deserve it even if they don't shika balance spam/turtle. Taking it away is just one less annoyance to all and a lot less complaints to the staff and others as well.
gaara's balance is just too easy to beat bob. i think even the lowest of the low could beat that so lets leave that out lol
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Post by xxsoulxx on Apr 12, 2011 22:30:21 GMT -5
shika balance is overpowered
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Post by Bobroham on Apr 12, 2011 22:34:45 GMT -5
It depends on the base kunai
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Post by xxsoulxx on Apr 12, 2011 22:53:15 GMT -5
lol bob at your avatar.
on Topic: Its commonly used with ino or minato or anyone that it'll work with really. it's that that should be banned
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Post by shadow9794 on Apr 12, 2011 22:54:17 GMT -5
soul just think of our u3 evasion stragety u do the same techinque to avoid shika/gaara bal and then wen they use it up u still have yours and therefore gain the advantage in the fight. shika/gaara bal just hurts the spammer if u no how to get around it
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Post by Bobroham on Apr 12, 2011 23:01:58 GMT -5
Getting around it isn't the point. It's the fact that you have to turtle to escape it. There is no form of punishing in this game even close to that of Shikamaru's kunai. If you have any other type of kunai, the enemy doesn't really have to worry that much about getting hit. If they have shika, the only safe choice is to turtle away or try to attempt a dash->U2, turning the match into a ridiculous turtling spam fest.
Personally I would ban shika bal not only on the premise that it is extremely overpowered in comparison with other kunai (although it is a huge part of it), but also on the fact that it completely removes the fun from the game.
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Post by rebornemperore on Apr 12, 2011 23:13:07 GMT -5
Cry me a river bob. It's no different from being tilted 17 times in a row by sasori. 'you make a mistake you die'. That's great. Join the club. On that premise you might as well ban Shikamaru overall. You fighting for this shika balance ban is hilarious to me.
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Post by xxsoulxx on Apr 12, 2011 23:18:42 GMT -5
not saying that i can't beat it shadow but how it's overpowered,annoying, and like bob said ruins the fun. I just don't really want to deal with it thats all. And reborn i don't think shikamaru should be banned overall i just think him as a balance support or him as main with ino or minato or pain etc... balance should be banned for the reasons i've already stated
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Post by xxsoulxx on Apr 12, 2011 23:19:46 GMT -5
Cry me a river bob. It's no different from being tilted 17 times in a row by sasori. 'you make a mistake you die'. That's great. Join the club. On that premise you might as well ban Shikamaru overall. You fighting for this shika balance ban is hilarious to me. please don't start anything negative reborn.
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Post by Bobroham on Apr 12, 2011 23:23:09 GMT -5
Reborn...
Even <== can't fully express what I feel from you. Why must you get so butthurt with every person you meet? You need to chill, I never even addressed you.
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