Assassin84
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Post by Assassin84 on Nov 16, 2010 14:17:47 GMT -5
Limiting Deidara, a mid tier character and unlimiting Minato and SM Naruto is silly. Also, lol at banning Kirin and Sasori from having attack supports. 1) Almost every character can do their ougi after an attack support. Plus, the argument that 'it is easier' is false, since others like Lee require no timing either. Plus 'guaranteed'? Since when? You could always substitute it. 2) Attack supports is Sasori's only real way to pull of an ougi reliably. He can't even do it after knjing or with hidan at close range. Yeah those comments on sauske kirin and sasori, were a while ago, sauske wont be limited. the thing about sasori that i dont like is how when i play all the top sasoris all they do is hide and use supports, they dont even try to grab, or do combos, or move around, they just sub spam the whole game. i have videos were they do it for 45 seconds straight. they would just wait until there supports knock you back to catch you. and the reason we want to limit those type of characters, is so we dont have that type of cheap gameplay. and also its easier for sasori to block since he also has his puppets. unlike others were you can break there block more easily.
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Post by lordspectrex on Nov 17, 2010 10:54:22 GMT -5
But that problem is not exclusive to Sasori. SM Naruto and Minato can turtle really effectively. For example, I face some Minatos that just run on the ground, spamming supports, and if I get in, he'll substitute and use his incredibly quick Jutsu. That's just as bad as Sasori/Chiyo turtles. Hell, any character can substitute and spam supports. Sure, Sasori has two guards, but they're twice as breakable as a regular guard. Not to mention that Sasori sucks against Awakenings. Especially ones like Minato's and Guy's, because of his very slow speed.
Even though I understand your logic for Sasori/Chiyo. (Just not why they're not applied to other characters), Deidara? Deidara is one of the worst at turtling. Say he's standing there, doing the tactic you described, what can he do? He can't ougi, his Meele combo leaves him open if they KNJ and his throw is slow and weak. Unlike Sasori's.
I'm not saying unlimit them, I don't care about that. But if you're going to limit them based on cheap tactics, you should do the same for Minato and SM Naruto.
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Post by THATCRZYFKR on Nov 19, 2010 12:46:52 GMT -5
Personally, I've fought the number 1 ranked guy on the ps3 leaderboard for NUNS2, Peppso something (I'm not looking at his name right now but I know I've fought him at least 10 times). And, I've gotta tell you, many of the top ranked people online play that same style. Out of the 10 times I've fought that guy, he used sasori each time. Well, it was a hellacious fight for me, trying to actually get around his deidara and kakuzu support attacks, to his constant shuriken, and throws was extremely annoying. We had the time down to less than 12 seconds and he had his green life bar still half full, while I only had 3/4 of the second life bar full. After [attempting] to dodge everything, I saw him start to build up for a team shuriken throw, so I did my team jutsu. Hits him, his life falls below mine, and boom!, he disconnects. I think there may have been 1 actual time when I fought him that he didn't disconnect. The point I'm trying to make is that many of the "top ranked" players, just are good at playing cheaply, and disconnecting from the match quickly when you get them in a crunch (most I've fought do, but some are cool about it). Its just a little odd that almost all of the cheap ones have used sasori, 9 times out 10. He should definitely be limited...
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Post by zacharyrocket on Dec 20, 2010 17:48:17 GMT -5
I think SM Naruto should be banned outright. Sasori spammers are bad, as well. Good thing I don't do that...
Deidara spammers are annoying, but against them is the only time I use Sasuke(Kirin). His Ougi can counter against their combos, yeah. Sasori Spammers? I, uh.... Use Minato's grab.
PS: Gotta cut this short. Niece wants to go on.
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Post by JoySticK on Jan 8, 2011 9:09:18 GMT -5
No Mintos Grab isnt That Spammy its really slow so he cant acutly spam it Anyway There alot of ways to beat a sasoris Grab when he trying to grab you Chakra Dash Him or Punch the Puppet and then you got him opend for at least 5 secs and boom you have to make form it something
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