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Post by Bobroham on Mar 8, 2011 16:10:34 GMT -5
Relative to other kunai, an SB causing one is not in the same ball park in terms of game-breaking power. If there was no U3 I wouldn't be complaining about this (much). Only relative to the other character's equivalent moves and possible strategies can I consider something when arguing for it to be banned.
In my opinion Sasori and Itachi are not difficult to counter, be certainly not impossible. Obviously anything can be abused but it only matters when it's game-breakingly overpowered
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Post by sandman1008 on Mar 8, 2011 16:13:47 GMT -5
And there in lies the issue. I don't think Shika's explosive tags are game breaking. You do. I'm gonna leave it there, because further argument will get us no where.
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Post by Bobroham on Mar 8, 2011 16:20:54 GMT -5
further argument will get us no where. Yep I guess that's right. I just don't understand how anyone wouldn't agree that the hardest to KnJ Kunai in the game which can also punish absolutely any attack at close range that causes instant SB which is extremely easily followed up by a U2/U3 which is also easily implemented into jump-block kunai spamming and not call it overpowered. =/
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Post by Bobroham on Mar 8, 2011 16:50:18 GMT -5
If anyone thinks Sasori is overpowered, challenge me, you use him and I'll spank you with Choji.
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Post by StarrkJow on Mar 8, 2011 18:10:42 GMT -5
I wasn't even the person who brought this up, it was prostriker, or something. Hell I'm the one who said not to play the game if you think it's broken. But in many professional gaming tournaments certain things are banned and if I think something is too strong, I won't hesitate to bring it up. This is on topic for the tournament though, regarding characters in it. True, and I wasn't blaming you, it's just that every tournament thread I've looked at seems to turn into character complaining wars.
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Post by crazyjay485 on Mar 8, 2011 18:30:25 GMT -5
Mostly about sassy lol
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Post by sandman1008 on Mar 8, 2011 20:09:35 GMT -5
further argument will get us no where. Yep I guess that's right. I just don't understand how anyone wouldn't agree that the hardest to KnJ Kunai in the game which can also punish absolutely any attack at close range that causes instant SB which is extremely easily followed up by a U2/U3 which is also easily implemented into jump-block kunai spamming and not call it overpowered. =/ Yet, I don't call it overpowered. You don't have to understand it, you just have to accept that's my view.
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Post by Bobroham on Mar 8, 2011 20:34:37 GMT -5
I never said I don't accept it
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Post by crazyjay485 on Mar 8, 2011 20:42:15 GMT -5
U really dont have a choice
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Post by omecronblazor on Mar 8, 2011 22:03:38 GMT -5
Hmmm Well I guess I have to go back to Maining Hinata =D Wait does this mean we can use any support character, not limited to the characters we can choose as a main?
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Post by Øutlawx™ on Mar 8, 2011 22:16:31 GMT -5
No, you have to use the one's listed as well for supports.
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Post by Assassin84 on Mar 8, 2011 22:16:45 GMT -5
Hmmm Well I guess I have to go back to Maining Hinata =D Wait does this mean we can use any support character, not limited to the characters we can choose as a main? No supports are limited to this list of characters as well.
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Post by Bobroham on Mar 8, 2011 22:25:15 GMT -5
Hmmm Well I guess I have to go back to Maining Hinata =D Wait does this mean we can use any support character, not limited to the characters we can choose as a main? No supports are limited to this list of characters as well. More the reason to ban Shikamaru! This means there are no supports that can save you from a U2/U3 after SB. The only one that comes close now is Sakura but that can be blocked and can still follow with U3. We will be at the mercy of spamming Kunai SB -> U2/U3 abuse. =(
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Post by Øutlawx™ on Mar 8, 2011 22:33:38 GMT -5
Ino with Shikamaru balance and another Knock back balance is pretty much the most unbalanced strategy in the game. Makes Sasori seem easy.
We're going to do a tournament, after the theme one, where we ban all these unbalanced characters (our opinion) just to see how things work out.
Shikamaru balance is a must.
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Post by darknsith on Mar 8, 2011 23:38:43 GMT -5
Ino with Shikamaru balance and another Knock back balance is pretty much the most unbalanced strategy in the game. Makes Sasori seem easy. We're going to do a tournament, after the theme one, where we ban all these unbalanced characters (our opinion) just to see how things work out. Shikamaru balance is a must. i want to illustrate something i just experienced online TONIGHT that is by far the gayest and most unfun experience i've EVER ******* had in this game. i normally don't rage about spam but damnit i *****ing got so pissed at this sum***** Character Ino Support Deidara-attack Shikamaru-balance fight start...chakra dash backwards...spam shika/deidara support and chakra flowers bull*****...if i did anything remotely close to approaching...flower jutsu. anyhow i dashed into him to apply pressure and i got ougi'd the second i chakra dash. i was like...okay w.e...im a dumbass i can get him back. aster ougi it was literally jump block/turtle heaven. i thought i was playing angry rabbits or some *****. well support drive activates and by god the spam got obscene...flowers/exposive tag....flowers/explosive tag... i was pretty vigilant on watching for it as ifigured thats what he was gonna do...but one *****ing slip up and i got SB into ougi...ougi ends he does the ***** again. this time he chakra dashes into explosive tag... SB...team ougi i've fought EVERY...SINGLE....CHRACTER in this game and honestly sasori can be annoying but not really game breaking like people say he is. he has his flaws. but this Ino...was a new breed of *****. i mean seriously there was no opening. the poison slowly siphons your life, and she can turtle beyond what you can even comprehend. then shika is there to punish whatever you can even fathom to attempt to do. she's like an unbreakable turtle shell. i HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend balance support be monitored because theres some serious potential of stupid ***** (mainly Ino and shika)
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